Mar 22, 2017|
The Guys dive into the NBA Rest debate and how the league can fix the issue with it's stars resting during nationally televised games and also discuss Steve Kerr's comments on taking less money if they shortened the schedule. They also discussed LaVar Ball's comments about LeBron James and his family and if he went to far to mention LeBron's kids.
In light of Tom Haberstroh's article on how Tinder affects teams on the road, Lo tells us what it was like as an athlete on the road.
The guys discuss Tom Haberstroh's article on how social media is affecting players on the road. They also talk about Lebron's post-game comments after the Cavaliers loss, as well as what will be discusses in the NFL Owners' meeting on Monday.
Warriors assistant GM Travis Schlenk joined Joe, Lo & Dibs to discuss the tinderization of the NBA & how the team plans to get KD involved with the team once he returns.
Former Warriors HC & College Basketball Hall of Famer joined Joe, Lo & Dibs to provide insight on how to fix the rest debate in the NBA & the tinderization of the NBA article by Tom Haberstroh.
Automatically Generated Transcript (may not be 100% accurate)
You wanna know the biggest difference between the NFL in the NBA specifically as it comes to players and power. Look no further than a tweet from Troy Vincent. Who currently works for the league office former NFL quarterback. Tried to run dread of the union lawsuit DeMaurice Smith. That ended up getting hired mentally why we realize is Smart dude don't wanna go against him. This is from Troy Vincent I believe is the head disciplinary MO yes he had a tech head disciplinarian. Quote we're developing an educational training video for players. To show clear examples of appropriate. And inappropriate. Celebration it's that might not seem like much. But it leads into the debate of how come players can have more fun how come they can't celebrate touchdowns the NFL stands for the no Fun League right we all heard that the future. This is not about celebrations. This is about control. You do not want the players. To be able to take off their helmets to be able to show their faces to the cameras to be able to show that personality on the field. Why because then it's about the player and not to shield he see in the NB day. It's all about the player it's about LeBron James you go to a basketball game you don't necessarily Sam Gordon warriors game and I a bonus C staff. Or if you're in a city. Safe Philadelphia say Minnesota say Chicago say one of the city's struggling right season ticket holder. I'm won't see Isiah Thomas tonight won't see bogey cousins I'm gonna see Carl Anthony towns I'm going to see. Jeff curry UCL people show up. The NBA's driven by the players the jerseys to shoot deals anyone in the NFL have a 200 million dollar shoot he'll now. Well you're not even allowed to for the most part they tell you what you can and cannot put on your cleats. It is a system of control to protect the interest of the shield. The NFL is leak first you're going to see the patriots you know I don't see Tom Brady. You're going to the Dallas game. Raider fans cheap game this weekend that not talking about and we listen Jamaal Charles you're going to see the team and the brand you're not going to see the player. This right here this tweet Alia you know were gonna revisit celebrations. Were gonna maybe show them ways that they can celebrate a little bit more. About control. As you get in their new dance like TO when you come up something good. Sharply once again be an endorsement deal out of wanna put in commercials now they wanna make about the players wants the players have control. You see what happens they want arrest. They wanna run out owners that they perceived to be racist who he was racist let's not get it wrong I don't know why you sort perceive but. They have unbelievable control their disposal LeBron James could rally everybody to get whatever he wants right now. And Adam silver the commissioner has made a big mistake. He's gonna learn from this he's made a big mistake he. Is player friendly. He works at the players he tries to help them out he wants the put them in good situations. Now the run and why and they're taking advantage of the situation. And that's Smart on their behalf get as much as she Kent. Because the owners have been trying to get back to the players in baseball for a long time players want more Beck union is strong as it comes with the NF well. Cannot get to that level because of little tweets like this the system of control to make it league and team first. Rather than player first that's the big difference and I'll base it. Now I I think it's really does have a you know stronghold on the players I came to lead people to take their helmet off after you score a touchdown Emmitt Smith member he'd always stick up ultimately yes yes everytime its Cortez don't take number summoned one a space to be seeing. All of all of us at the least amount this mandate got to keep your helmet on I. I saw what happened under the guise of safety yep it's exactly touchdowns lower than us down the plays over coach he is not sick he's not a mall now. But they don't they want to control the brain. They want all these companies to come to them where it's FedEx whether it's all these companies. They want a piece they go out. They tell these players that's why players are trying to get agents to reach out behind closed doors try to go get other deals why the quarterback unions so great because a quarterback guys in a note. We understand our value that's what we had this quarterback club. This they know what the NFL do they know that all these companies all these companies these clusters NFL they'll call you and say hey you know what will give you a piece. Big in the millions you get the crowns. It's the way this system is set up just like Joseph said is that the owners in the NFL the she'll get a good luck to all these Pepsi all these different things. They'll give you a piece. But they're getting a majority and that's why this machine continues to grow. It's also because the numbers you know you've got what 46 on game day roster in the NFL and you've got fifteen in the NBA. Fans sit mere feet from the court in the NBA in the NFL you're at minimum forty yards away even if you're at the closest seat. You're still far back from the players so most deceit is actually the worst seat right buys you don't have the same. Proximity to the players the helmets prevent you from identifying with the players and the fact that there's. Fewer NBA players he can exert. Much more influence but it's always been about the she'll ever since Roger Goodell took over him and he's a Smart businessman for that. Yet now. Eat you say that that music will the players they get marks SS ability knowledge Stephanie MBA I get dad. Does that make him more money. So even though we have a sport. That is not making more money you're still game they are more accessibility the basketball but football. Is still America's sport still get more ratings it gets more people watch miserable it's the biggest event. George talked about anytime a person goals and perform and have time that sells gold 30400%. Milla commercial 32 commercials over a million dollars. So I kid that part of it. It doesn't mean that the dollar is behind Bryant figured it like this now a playoff that point you're exactly right. The most popular sport you make the most money the most recognizable York. Ads during Super Bowl are unbelievably price over three million for 32 spot. How often do YC. Blake christening commercials Chris Paul and commercials LeBron James and commercials or Dell is finally stepping up his game again classic commercials. You see these dudes everywhere Carl Anthony towns got that commercial. Except for some beef jerky I think I don't even Carly didn't towns is out there was stuff that you're seeing him. Breeze how often you see imminent commercial do you not like raising money for something right now you salt late innings and Nancy Aaron Rodgers doing. They really aren't yet yet. That's double check what else are you sing the star players in the NFL what do ceasing. When cap and it was in his heyday you see him doing anything over the raiders do and Andy you ever see DC. Khalil Mac those are two bona fide stars not locally nationally journals are national stars at this point. A quarterback in one of the game's best pass rushers you don't see them in any national ads yet Blake Griffin. Two years ago before punch that is not trainer or whatever I was. Could you couldn't get away from the guy. You can't get away from some of these guys they are every Iraq is he behind there there are down and he's got a little close commercially CJ do a lot but you're right it's got a little bit. Yes a little bit they're up they're four they're the number one sport in the country now their main event draws more than anything. Bear that popular made out great everybody both the row. A Sunday night game in New Orleans up against the World Series in the way and yet. The players. Come nowhere near the recognizable features that you see with the NBA and that's why the NBA has this problem oppressed because they cannot control. LeBron James you guys at best NFL players at best might have an opportunity in week seventeen or sixteen. Arrests of Daschle playoffs you can kind of sell that concept because it's luck we got nowhere else to jockey for position we've got our seeding locked up. We don't wanna risk injury football's violent. And then there'll be the little argument about well would you owed the fans remember Peyton Manning and the colts had this the one year. But that kind of comes and goes in the we're done talking about it this is a legitimate concern. Taking games off Saturday's primetime middle of the season you got TV people who are upset. League executives who were upset. Fans who were upset the players what do you know about you can't stop that did you made a great point yesterday if you can no longer be designated DNP rest what's gonna happen. DNP hurt feelings did he ankle dean team migraine DNP sniffles for fun out loud I'm Seth feel about tonight. None ads into if you ever get to a point where it's pay for play you're gonna have the same situation where. Oh yeah you don't pay me unless I play 1 o'clock all the go to Miami there goes my baby toenail that's been flared up again you know it's in grown. I got to go to the bench. The best way to do it is to just. Let teams handle their business schedule more fairly stretch it out and minimize wrest the bench she can't our guests earlier Michael Lee. Made a great point to make this season 6250. Games it won't matter they're still going to be situations where teams are gonna rest guys it's human nature. It's as you said that the medicine shows you that it's the best way to get the most out of players it's gonna happen. Warrior Wednesday driven by the all new premier key of Newark online premiere key of new work dot com. Steve Kirk asked about the rest situation. Wouldn't she be willing to cut his own salary if the NBA shorten the schedule. As a potential solution to the issues of SARS resting during regular season games. I wouldn't be opposed to it. Even at the expense to my own salary but it's something that everyone would have to agree to. Do you think there's anyway. Anyway that that had the vote would go throw because right now the guys were resting LeBron James is a billion dollar lifetime deal would Nike. Stats about to make forty plus million dollars a year. Right frame on got the eighty million dollar deal plays getting paid spurs whenever everyone buys and doing their own thing down. In choosing Joseph because. A part of me in you know he does say will no way they would go for this apart in this say some well in some won't. The somewhat old Jill little bronzes in its and that part of his career. I'd say you know what sure let's cut down a salary a little bit 'cause I got my billions the guys that are young. Just give me in his forget that. They're not passing it. So it's different you know it's a different it's a different millennium you know you gonna have some did both sides did spectrum and you think about it. But I think the most are saying no they don't want it they want to make sure that this stays this way because. People don't wanna go down in salary. They don't wanna go down and sellers this was. Part of the problem during the last NFL lock if you remember as they had to cut a couple pre season games off but they were able to start week one. Both sides of the deals never get done until you're up against a deadline and we all know that. But both sides were negotiating and a year or two and advance the union had gone to the players instead start putting money aside he need to be prepared in the event. There's a lock out a strike at the season gets missed a partially missed you need to have some money in place while you've got fifty somewhat players per team guys on practice squads all this. You can't guarantee everyone's managing their money properly you can't guarantee that any field. Not just professional sports it's any feel right but you can't guarantee that these guys have battle organized. So short Drew Brees Aaron Rodgers they might have their money dialed up what about the last guy on the roster who's in the second year of his deal. When you find a 151000 dollar first sock violation after all the taxes send down fifteen K can be a lot so as they got closer to the deadline. A lot of the players were putting pressure on their union reps say look get something done. I don't wanna miss a game check. What do mid six figure game checks. And that puts pressure on the union to take to certain things much like the league has the pressure of if we missed week one we're gonna miss out on all that TV and. It it happened before Joseph in the strikes an eighty's you know we have those guys they striker what happened guys had a crossed a line. Because like you say finances they couldn't hold that they couldn't sustain. You're rushing Falco. Was the quarterback about the team in Baltimore I believe. And then that Eddie whatever the scab came across the top odd that no amount the second half the championship game into Gene Hackman was the coach it was replaced NASCAR does not affect not only found but the -- actually deal that was a film but it did happen the pros to get there guys that scabs it would that the cross the line. And remember being a part of one of those luck would give me you'd be locked out of jail in what the league did our union came to us in exit for the next five years. We want to put in 5000 dollars a year. So what they did is they took out of march at a Marchex towards what were your own savings yes so what they did was taken 5000 calls at every once salary for five years. Because then do an F five years they wanted to have enough money. To Brit Britain on lawyers that union that is that our lawyers need to have the funds in the in the count so five years leading up to the lockout leading up to the till they're being hit the floor with two everything medal at the metal. We put in 5000 dollars a year. Where that's doubled you weak and that's our union prepared where the lock what was that money for the lawyers yes uh huh oh my gosh every player. Had to put in. 5000. If you are part of the union every single player had to put in 5000 dollars a year for five years. Leaned up to the lack of course you got the money back. But now eight bit and how to get it back well after that we end up settling of course before winning Soviet aid they do is deviate point five. Album Arctic elbow where they do it is a year they would pay out. So they were investing it making money off and can't New York based investment back you're getting gaining. They imagine how I collected interest and built it exactly leave us unbelievable Youkilis you big LeBron and that hairline whatever Santa that perhaps I. Access data got a couple coffee that's a Yugo out there. I cannot hit in nick and may interest you gotta do that can be inexpensive little battle I mean you've got how many lawyers lining up on most sci everyone's getting paid that's now. Make no mistake about it once again they are right on the issue of rest however Jeff Van Gundy former coach the next now broadcaster. Was on The Dan Patrick Show his here was his suggestion for what the NBA could do to improve. The current resting. Scenario the idea that maybe 82 games doesn't suffice anymore and so on or shorten the season. Amigo you have to be willing to take less money a pure player aren't owner or coach or GM or the shorter season you can't have a both Kuwait you can get eight or 82 games. And show up percent. There you have it. There you have it. How viable is this. Concept the idea of actually shortening the regular season and that's not viable and all it doesn't work and you look at teams. Like the Golden State Warriors were ticket prices are going up and it's getting more difficult. To get to a game you've got 41. Opportunities to see your warriors at home. You cut that down to what 25 or thirty home games sixty game schedule thirty home games what does that do to demand demand goes up. Price goes way up in that case and now. Fans who are struggling to even make it to Milwaukee or. You know apologies to 76ers there. Maybe Orlando teams are gonna draw like apologizing because you're there and with the words every time they play them I know but they give the lawyers about a punch than anyone in the biz it's not the most marquee game as far as demand and this that isn't as I think about the man had to answer your opinion and I'll put it aside for now. With a drive by I had. This job please nobody commented to the point being fewer games does nothing to draw in more fans it only makes it more. Exclusive less inclusive. No reason while this is technically still in it depends on the wanting MO NEY. In now milieu that it relays when ticket prices were low. People really didn't care. Because they were really the truth and now you have the more sophisticated and and I even militarily fans still I think they're coming for the event in now you have upper price. Upper tear people down. That by Nazis came to 300 dollars in ticket. They're like hey I want to see that product out there on the floor it's more money driven so now it's a different demographics that's come into the games. It came in May have more billboards because money talks in you know what else walks you used the perfect word to describe what warrior basketball is now. An event. And specially which Jason opening it's an event that's not enough. Don't interpret that something negative. When you can transcend from sport to event. Now you're hitting it on all cylinders. Now you're doing would only the greats can do you can do you bringing in the sports fans which are also bringing in all these customers who just wanna be apart of what are these you've got going on. Mickey's not a huge hoops fans she never really was until she moved here now the warriors on every night she's taken a liking to it. But the first time we went to that game last year against Minnesota at the end of the season. That was all about the tunnel shot and the dribbling and the fanfare it was so much about the game. Now what overtime is a great game but for her that was an event type atmosphere she loved it because of the event you're exactly right that's exactly what's in that. Think about it gives you you know we take our kids who have banging you elect me I am gonna sit here in my as a feminine watched an arrest and it's still doesn't have. But now you talk about the elite. Know bring their kids that. I'm didn't go like step I mean they'll spend. Money 30000 dollars and dissed the gold to say that only two big game. And if they don't get their money work that I got to go my dad got me kick it's even though it's about give villages and Joseph. That's her that's what sports. Are going because. The only the only Indian leader of the complete. Can afford somebody's ticket prices dipped. And that's for a lot of things whether it's going to see Hamels in are going to see a lawyer gamer and the other entertainment value at the end event you wanna be satisfied if you're not. Then you're a dissatisfied customer and maybe you're not a customer anymore so. All the rest out for me it's fine I get it I coached that's played a little bit I understand you wanna be at your best come playoff time but. You do have to still run a business and if it becomes a problem where you're losing customers. And you're not fulfilling your TV network deals and you've got a real problem and that's the direction we're going. Is it too much to ask the teams that if you're not gonna cut from 82 games in you're not gonna cut salary because let's face it you're not gonna get enough votes of people going short less money's great. Whoever takes less money in any thing. Doesn't happen coach. When Warren Buffett that's it. Why do you think there's ever so narrow where okay we're not gonna cut games we're not gonna cut salaries and we can't control you with rest here's what you need to do. Minimum. Two weeks in advance you have to submit when you're going to be doing this. You need to put in the time in the research if you're gonna use all this science and medicine in debt and a I hire some people to use science and data as it pertains to your schedule. Identify what you perceive to be the problem spots and announce in advance. Two weeks minimum. That that's gonna be a game where your stars are place at the very least people who have paid or are going to pay. Top tier prices for sub tier talent can get a discount or get a refund in some regard. It's it too much of a competitive disadvantage because you're the opponent and you know up in two weeks you're not gonna see staff clay Dre or KD. You're gonna approach that game differently maybe you're gonna rest your guys the game before that to know that you're going to be full strength I think the solution. Is rebates for prints if you sure do game without stars. You get a voucher worth at least 50% of what you paid for your ticket. Toward a future game. That's a gimmick though it draws you back for another game give me the cash back. All out of your way to make me whole now that whole voucher thing that's a scam that's a hustle because he gets you back into the building to spend even more money I'm not I'm not good with that. Amok I would bet that doesn't help anybody I see we go but it doesn't help anybody I think requests that come in front. Rebecca rose while you're all excited not a nice to finally be like and you are you genius no I think the years now are tragic it's great for the team that drag it forces you to come back. That's the whole thing all these bring your job and had to go why is it all these things they try to entice you wit. A lot of these sign at all. Gonna get 300 dollars in free play day. Yes what she spent 2000 dollars at the 300 feet just giving it up yours is on one game piece that way at monopoly and they went from when it. Yeah. We can't afford to do any good at it. It dips to your point you're saying when you're saying that hey if you let him know two weeks in advance of their team psychologically. They'll say want to do the same thing and yet as an athlete joke. I think the biggest way that you solve this problem. If you tell these guys who look. We're going to limit your minutes we gonna get their rest but you're gonna limit your minutes and guys know that these particular games you're gonna cut back. At least mentally they're ready still to play at a high level for lemon amount of minutes I think maybe it's can be a thing about Mitt. How backed it show lowered dibs on 95 point seven game. Lavar ball the father of UCLA point guard Alonso ball. Back in the news he is it quite a loquacious. Individual he's been making headlines for the greater part of the last month. Starting with his sons Bennett and Seth Curry his sons better than Russell Westbrook. Mountain he's a very outspoken individual. Some take exception to a DTV was on with us last week he thought he was doing his sunny huge injustice putting too much pressure on putting a target on his back not parenting in the railway others. And I tangible lean towards this direction. He is drawing a lot. And attention to his sons and attention leads to profitability in some situations. His two sons of the most talked about high school athletes in the country he's all the sun's most talked about college player in the country. Gotta be something to that right he takes all the bullets meanwhile they fly underneath the radar. Don't discount him. As a loud mouth bought. He may have gone one step too far here and this is recently on meet in the zone podcast with Chris Broussard up fox sports. Talking about his kids and the kids of LeBron James. You've got abroad. It's going to be very hard for his key aides to commit not gonna look at him as a prosecutor and you gotta be just like your dad and you have to let it restore sitting on because my. I can't market to be me if any that I always saw nothing good could expectation is very very my boys are good great. But let's say are really excelled in football and made millions and millions of dollars. To spend their time will now. All season we're about myself balances you everything delegates who triggered hoped not to be okay where effect. How wasn't all that. Now's he's going to make my boys all but. Brian James speaking to ESPN. Responded quote. Keep my kid's name out of your my I keep my family out of your mouth. This is dad to dad it's a problem now so low you decide you're an athlete you have a son who plays Purdue great young man. Has is this will more ball going two for. I mentioned LeBron James is kits. Yet because he's doing it for a platform. Now did the easy is does he have. A reason when he SanDisk and be true. It can be true and also can be it can be Foster 01 he can be true because of his kids go out there and they're trying to excel that Maynard that was great play you guys got to play hard let's go we need to be like your dad hope you have your dad's so that's one in. But the other and it appears spectrum is. You do get perks because now they were say. Menu come from good linenger learns that you gonna be your side got so he has also. That Kurt sticky we have also can help. It helped who's gonna get opportunity people who say man he's got a good seat this guy may be just like his father you got to relax his Butler. So it helps in at the same sense so. I distinctive he's trying to build a stage in a platform. And sometimes he's won a lot of it is these different antics of these things he's when he's Guatemala too when it. I just don't acting too old he's Robin a lot of pro athletes lot of former athletes in the wrong way. Because it affects. He's using them for that shock value. To get his point across to make himself bigger than what it is in his kids a lot of parents are a lot of parents in a lot of people are saying. Don't be like you're dead as well so flip side is that is a lot of analysts a lot of athletes a lot of kids and people until his son's. Please don't be allowed map like your father. James has two sons twelve year old LeBron junior and nine year old Bryce. They've shown plenty of promise on the AAU circuit start to get some mock offers to. I believe the oldest one who's a twelve year old Ron junior has standing offers verbal offers from duke and Kentucky. Gibbs is this a situation where we might be reading too far in this balls trying to make a point he's not necessarily attacking. The bronze kits so is this maybe the media trying to drum something up here where it might not be or has Lavar ball possibly crossed the line. He's crossed the line in my opinion because in if you listen to the quote he says. You know if you're out there in your it is successful. Used to send money home in your kids are gonna get lessons on their own bubble block when you're involved and include LeBron James. In that that analogy. You're making the listeners think you're talking about LeBron James in your alluding to the fact that LeBron is out there. You know during the regular season not raising his culture which is true or not true. It's not your business get my kids' names out of your mouth you worry about your kids in. You know if you wanna put your kids out there and you wanna brag on how great your kids are you boy scored 92 and a high school game you own Chino Hills Rick. We're all proud you know you ought to beat your chest. I can judge ya wanna judge you but I won't say that your kids are talented because they're incredible basketball players that don't talk about how I'm raising my boys. You don't know how he's raising his kids I'm not a big LeBron James fan. But it seems to me these are pretty involved dad from all the things you can ascertain and I'm not gonna be somebody to judge LeBron as a father because I just. Don't know warrior Wednesday's driven by the all new premier key of new work on line at premier Kia of Newark dot com all the latest with the raiders and the pending vote. Coming up in seven minutes at 630. Wherever you land on mess. I was going one step further about it when I was walking the dog this morning tracking amen and I started thinking to myself. You notice how we talk about this all the time. That it's the loudness and the most outrageous. Takes opinion stances that get the most attention. You say something ludicrous people respond but more portly people look at you they click on your articles they watch your TV shows they listen your radio station. As a result you have more followers you have higher ratings you generate more money you make more money you get more prominence this was the entire life blood of the show first take. Loud and screaming and to the point where you didn't have to agree with them but you walked in men that's on this whole debate format debate platform. That everyone's trying to implement sports talk and and in the news an end you know politics as well. Are we gonna reach a point where there are no longer any boundaries I don't know if this is going to fund any new modern weighing in on this adding you to set perfectly. But is they're gonna come appoint someone can go on a radio station someone can go on a TV show and just attack someone's wife attacks someone's kids. Attacks somewhat significant other just go as personal. As can be for no good reason and that's to be something that people respond to that starts this new trend of outrageousness that's what worries me. At some point we got to draw a line we still have to remember where people now have to be some basic level of respect and decorum does that not. I could linger too margin over and look at look at the leadership. Look who we don't you know hopes some elected indignant if you look at. How this guy just says the most pressing to have time to be on Twitter where the good better different to a sudden it is in its calls in reaction. Would you like this president not he's doing things it it's outlandish to people at what are you doing. But it's getting a reaction. And and and I disagree that mr. ball always talk about were you just gotta pay for trainers you have money goes. Personally as a father Joseph and I told you all the time we talk about you ask me how those 21 amendment years ago we started talking to look I don't work out with him. And I can pushing so far and he'll turn off. Because I'm like come you've got to do this and I'm pushing it and act because I had these in my athletic ability because how I train can't I'll keep pushing up. It to a point where it's the one and overturned and I losing. So sometimes you as mr. ball he's someone all this money to a money it sometimes fathers do more damage. And outside because outside trainer our kids are our sons our daughters are. They using can get more out of him because they feel that that person. It's getting paid to do their job and it's a different vested interest on an apparent so emotional financial all so different after so it's a huge difference so I just totally disagree with that statement that he's made. What does he went to some I guess in the league. What if you're playing San Diego Baltimore wherever it may be and let's say little low was older so he was on his way to Purdue while you were still playing. Right so we wasn't as young as he watched sure he's on his way to Purdue and he's a highly touted prospect as he was same situation. And your in the league and you're just minding your own business doing your thing but you've got some hot headed father out there who thinks he's got some Simon's gonna be the best prospect in the country. Right sits at all stock has lost sons a quarterback Jeff I know you guys are friends but sure that this guy popping off and he goes. You know the thing about me. Is that I didn't have this pro career I got time to develop my son Malone O'Neal his boys go to Purdue colonial not around he's playing during the season he now worker with a -- can't pick up the phone on Sundays like what what would that you use you hear that all over the news woody how you react in that refers I would see if there was one reference Zorn and I it's not a good idea friend that's going to be but in the days. And I know you write it that's what makes it so. Interest in joke that this. The guy that I know Imus say first thing you need to probably be quite as you don't know me you don't know me as a man you know mommy as a father you don't know my work at the you don't know that I get about 4 AM every day while I was playing when I was in high school where I was even caught in going to work out a one run. As a child or don't themselves absolutely. You don't know the work ethic that I put in to get dude didn't come what I am. So for you to go out there and say I don't spend time with my son spent time in my kids shame on you. You don't even know me you're from a distance. And yogurt blab in your mouse here I don't put in time when my son and I don't know what it's like he'll Sundays is a busy day but you know what our sunny Mike's son is at the ball game with a my son is riding on buses and being able to meet different guys played NFL talk at a different coaches and say hey pat which is what it's gonna take. So you don't know the advantages in two different things and I'm given my son at the same since so shame on you. To start telling me making it hard for Massa you don't understand I'm making it hard for this guy make it hard in a way that it's going to help them to excel. So I I think it'd be wasn't so it's always like that that Joseph. I would be disappointed because someone's attacking LeBron are talking to attack him myself in they don't know what goes on behind closed door but how many times and attacked my son has say how much I love you you don't know that. So leave me Eddie now. I think real sad to leave any amount. And you shipped it was. Legal would you punch him in the face. Act. Would tell you we could meet you see out so I'm Xavier I don't let me put payload wouldn't go outside talk about it. You know talking to the talking outside. You whatever mental sport natural nature or wherever we can make you Republican. Yeah and that gives enough yet did business not a element from the Bible Belt all the odd little close at Purdue what happened with the big LeBron like announcing that he was going to Utah. He they you told want it to you into the opposite side of the ball just declare publicity. They wanted to move them to go off inside a ball he wanted to play defense so. He didn't wanna go to plead they've decided say they've been my best interest is go to Purdue reckon played defense and coach John p.s who was my coach in New Orleans Saints. He taught techniques are low. I don't this is tough because I want your son to play defense in so he was in he says low after a year something's gonna happen I'm probably not immediately behind closed go. Very nice of him to give you the heads up on eggs now backed a warrior Wednesday. Kearse Jolo and did ex raider nation to you all you alleged Jews AAA 9579570. Should be inevitable. Actually that's a bad work as I don't wanna see is gone and I don't think it's inevitable should be. Unfortunate. Take place Monday. And the vote goes down yes the the raiders can relocate to Las Vegas how are you gonna approach your phantom you checking out on raider nation. You'll have the opportunity we will open the phone drug opportunity to buy a new team if you like. How are you gonna approach that day Marcos Daly City Marcus Daly City if the vote is yes on relocation. Are you gonna handle being raider fan moving forward. Well they're cute competent not been fully support team a lot to Monte you'd like that. But I can't and I can't put them onto the gains or netbook probably averages up by the serenity is fine. But that's beside the fact I would advocate. Actually put you at the site. Kept out of like 200 dollars for the flight hotel. On top of the not one extra day. You know I was pleased basic party. I can't put in the days that move economies. Let's not hang up I ask you questions still there. Do you think. That the Marshawn Lynch negotiations. Are possibly taking place in an effort that should the vote bowed out yes. This is kind of like a consolation prize slash distraction for raider fans that hate we're leaving in a few years but we are getting you beast mode. You think I mean. Think about he's. California. You know I mean who democracy beast mode and in the silver black Connolly Ike Taylor and ago. You need to be beast mode for about 23 years. And Hillary believes in believes. We again and are today. Beautiful stuff I appreciate the vocal Marcos thank you very much Chris San Francisco Chris savers as well thanks for calling the show floor George god. Actually ended up patent. Being questioned about. It. Well a lot of people keep bringing that up do you think it would matter because of the team doesn't go to Vegas for three years should they get the vote. Do you really think religion is gonna play four more seasons I only kind of see this is a one and done or maybe two more years. I. Think. It. Well the hope is that he'd help put him over the top so at least they can be a Vince Lombardi Trophy in town for raider nation before the team would lose leave right and right. I. Greater. I'm Chris appreciate phone call well help me out on this one to two how much time is left the Marshawn Lynch a lot of people think he would wanna go to Vegas what I mean he's gonna be on the wrong by that point be like 3380. Took him he takes big shot T right. He's physical he's he's he's a modern day Earl Campbell. Let's be real runs that physical gets doubt he'll obese both for reasons dips so I think that this guy's got one to two years that he can play at a really high level and you got a relaxed. You know he was injured little beat because it affect the way that he ran so. I think it's this year in May be next year but I would give new meaning aluminum bat. I think that's about right I would say even one years about the emotional. Give it a push this year see if you can not get this team over the hump and maybe get yourself a second Super Bowl beyond two years. No shot and I'm not convinced he's even gone back this year it's tonight's story we haven't really heard anything from his side and oh he's a quiet guy at what kind of shape is he in it he won't have played for nearly two years he played very sparingly couple years ago I'm not sold on the fact is coming back. What do you think about his point. How much of Dick's these negotiations these talks these rumors. What percentage is about person now is upgrading the roster personnel wise of what percentage is PR. As in should be get them out to Vegas in raider nation's past him but we got Marshawn Lynch so you know you can't be all Matt. How would you break that down a hundred nothing in my just conspiracy theory here I have to. 82 money because it's certainly a great story you know the local kid come into play for the local team the team and he's always wanted to play foreign. I know Marchand so the only team he would play for is the raiders. But it seems to me at a drop in the bucket verses an absolute deluge of your team leaving town. As far as news goes I agree it's a short term solution for a long term problem. There the raiders or if they leave where they decide to stay one thing about we know Marshawn Lynch Marcia remains. Is going to give you everything he got whether it's not them. Whether it's whether you whether the one thing you know he's going to try. One thing you know about athletes especially guys of his caliber. This is the team this is home he would try to give he's going try to run through people run people's chests. He was going to lease give it all he has because he's home he said there's not a team he won a play for. So one thing about it you'll have a motivated Marshawn Lynch hopefully he's put in the work. The running exercises all the things we need to do to make sure he can give the raiders fans what they came to seek. Did it and how gala this coming out this. I get a kid who's six weeks old assuming he grows up to be a football fan as soon negroes are here for the duration which would be beautiful beautiful thing. Amy loves it here. How do you approach who he roots for. The wife of course is from Western New York she thinks she should be bills fan that has already been squashed you know nobody nobody for the bills in this council but dad is from Philadelphia. I've already made it clear he won't be needles and you're not going to. So you've got two options here as of now but if the raiders leave. That's a tough sell to get him on a team or introduce him to a team that no longer exists here. 01 of the things I've noticed now with the changing youth watching football. Is that they're not as much fans of teams in more fans of players NASA do a lot with fantasy football. And the way it went red zone everything so you're seeing so much more kids becoming fans of players that can be condescending like you know yet the have good players. I Derek Carr he might just be a fan of him watching him might be raiders fan because of that are some. Not dangerous proposition does is keep comes on like guru who love like deck press got none know now. Yeah I saw how nine you'll be in band then you'll be moved into something else you've football will be over. I will say that my husband was born and raised in Oakland but the raiders were were gone in the eighties and he became 49. That's reasonable right what he's supposed to do cling to dreams yen hit a snag and and it really depends on how it plays out because I'd try to get my kids to go one way and one key idea went the other way just because I I told they may be should. Root for the Oakland teams within an Oakland side out on the niners and giants fans dagger dad at sun and you know. That's the way act on how much that may have had to do we knew he looked dead man. With a 100% and I got friends or just they they wanna despite the old man yeah despite deal may East Coast thing that's kind of how that whole story is gone you know start to finish you know we get the two kids so what's the one candidacy yet you go to the younger one and cannot hope to curry say that way if your bad 500 you don't tell us very exactly and stay on hold we're coming back in a flash we're gonna give away tickets and we're gonna take your calls next Jolo and insight hybrids have now -- toward your Wednesday he is Jolo NTX. Gene. It Oakland if the raiders leave. How are you go to approach your raider fan them. Other approaches the same way it did 1981. Time elapsed. I'm but it took some often. A bracelet niners. Really. Yeah how hard they do. How hard that you need to do to. It's not easy but I hadn't done it in the media would have got to enjoy the Montana Ara. Fantastic point. I said that's a fantastic point I started to cut you off the head. I'm act considered myself that Santa had the she itself from any air that he wanted to at least on and I ended with a financial strain. But as far as unconcerned that the team abandons me I've been an. But I'll be ready I don't bricks and when they come back today go belly up because. David can't afford to pay that billion dollars gonna have to borrow that to do this you only get twilight the 30000 people game. And group Lauren lake a pick up the team and built stadium farm here that might rename it. Jeanne appreciate the phone call. That's exactly why you're gonna get the first vote of yes from one Jed York you don't think he's chomping at the bit for the S and you grew up in the eighties where. Because the raiders were here you had no choice you were saying your husband as well. My husband was like an Islamic parents you know they're from San Francisco's Baylor big niner fans lineups there's no other action that's who Iowa that's who was he and investigate and it. And that is exactly what jet would be banking on first on the vote yes he won't need to convince him any other way Chad in Chattanooga. Realize we are so big in Chattanooga judge god. 80 probable longtime raiders fans since since the ability. To. Yeah it's probably twenty years now and you know it's what people that's a bit of its a different perspective. It's. Though. There later on the most historic returns in the NFL. And it is chain that they play an stadium. It in the conditions that their stated. Look at the traveling in the billion dollars stadium. Looked at. It's 400 and stadium. And you hear much from the city oh explores the leadership in in the pocket they're. And kill the raiders got offer from market. Then. The city although I'm willing to war was oh with the raiders and try to stadium. And from my perspective for being in the I mean I feel bad news is there's no hope now want to regulators state Angel went. That on the perspective is that if it is that it ultimately wanted to related state they were shown it before them. If head. How many years. The president's sincerity in Modesto. Almost twenty years now. Yours yeah and city not done anything since then they've had twenty years to delays in his state. Just my opinion this year. Well we appreciate the call Chad thank you for listening in Chattanooga about that. Press so I know as we didn't Chattanooga. Maybe go down there and try to myself Friedrich. Them and didn't seem that the really good fell ten minutes Tennessee rest absolutely you're big in Tennessee who loves Tennessee. Only state in the nation that felt that that pass OJ and pasts. Well here I mean celebrated enjoy it it's been great for ever done it they've had the sport up so are we got to go back to the calls Matt and lock yet thank you for calling the program. Matt Lafayette. How would you approach your raider fan them should the worst case scenario take place Monday. Well unfortunately I still I'd still for a what can we got treasures are. We were we're close to that person or number so I can't just not support them during. I cannot support that I wish I have another point to that question that you guys. Order the cable. God forbid. If she passed away. There's going to be to. Mark the community. And a cure if you're doing it. Does it taxes to talk about it epic by that and it just what it. Lot as possible he could say so it can still retain tool should you consulate. That's an excellent point that's an excellent point Matt thank you for weighing and we actually kick that around off their like twenty minutes ago. On my old man and my mom when they were thinking about retiring they were looking at two places Florida as everyone on the East Coast does and they love the Bay Area they love the idea being up at my country. But they took a look at that very issue. State taxes and everything that came with the and they said it's just not worth the Florida. Is very friendly like Arizona to people who were retiring they set it up that way so is Nevada if you ever notice how many people from Chicago. Relocate to. Las Vegas because you know state income tax and it's set up very well for cost of living I don't think there's any one the truth factor. That's driving this putt potential move I think it's a righty thanks a 750 million dollars and on the table. Yeah and that's tough to resistant you know if you Mark Davis in your thinking ahead about possible state taxes and how you can. Keep it team I you can afford to keep the team that'll make sense still but I think simplistic league. Looking at it and seeing no stadium proposal that's viable in Oakland on the horizon. Not wanting to share the 49ers that's a dead idea the LA door got slammed in your face. Slam he's run out options and this is his only option is the last best option. Gag it's the interest seen Joseph because. I don't Vegas is a viable place people are talking about because it's logistically can either get dared to travel all the things that are there. I had no Saint Louis still wants another team and the money was already put put and food money was already raised they are so they had a viable plan. It's this interest team because you know mark is not the richest owner but he's a guy I didn't hear it you know that's working what does mom on the team trying to keep it together. They just need a stadium in this may want to stadium the raiders deserve a stadium. The fans deserve did a better place and and mark understands that so I hopefully something can happen hopefully it's here. Didn't didn't a Vegas. Tim Roy the voice the warriors coming up at about ten minutes here on warrior Wednesday driven by the all new premiere Kia of Newark online it premiered Kia of Newark. Dot com friend of ours we tailgate with quite a bit low Garrett. Son of the great raider days yeah. Weighs in with a tax so this is the thing you get access the people they bypass attacks nine bypassed the phones they come right Tia. Justin Garrett Libya the difference between the eighties and now is there's more access to seeing them in a different city I'm sure that is why David Stanley doesn't care. Interesting because we've done this out there before as well. More flights from both Oakland. San Francisco. To Las Vegas. You've got to figure they're going to be people who find ways to create deals. Dan groups bringing massive amounts of people down to a certain hotel package deals I can put this thing together. How many people from raider nation would truly be interest in something like that at first yet maybe one or two games a year but that it's expensive and buried it yes. And I think that when you look at that as the backbone of your fan base here in real trouble especially when you're trying to build a in a town that is very vulnerable. To economic downturns we had won in 2008. And the way the Dow's been going yesterday notwithstanding when it took us. Pretty sizable hit. The Dow is at record levels and he can't help but think. There is another bubble that's going to burst and when that bubble bursts in the US economy in hits places like Vegas first person form. All I came I moved to Vegas right in the heart of all that. That place and I believe Scottsdale were destroyed you know how many homes were underwater the value of what people were paying here's the kicker about Vegas. The second the market bounced back they started building all over that place again it's like they didn't eat nobody learn. Nobody alert look at the population. 32008. Then look at the population after 2000. Massive I thought we're talking six figure ships you're counting like Henderson area at its peak around two million there but they dropped to barely over a million. During all that stuff that took place in 2008 people were living there anymore they're given a mile any jail. The banks sit a horrible job they were given Mae money given money to people that could qualify. I think now the banks understand hopefully they learned something from that air it you're just give the money to anybody who did not fill out paperwork and you can get a loan people were buying two and three homes in little window and 50000 dollars so it was crazy so this thing had to correct itself but you're absolutely right. This is takes it when you look at Vegas it's OK it's at it's a talent that is X this town that likes to serve it's it's known for people come in and in using you have to have money to come to Vegas to spend so it is a town that it's scary you because if the market does take a little dip you'll fill fill big time. We get time for one more Jerry in Oakland thank you for calling the show. Should the worst case scenario take place Monday in the voted yes on relocation of Vegas how you approach your phantom. Lucky to pick our reporting a year he went in went to LA we pick gulp mile PSA plane up and go back to open. There's double right so. This time I'm part of the annual. But but I do our very. Two bit no studio also in Vegas what sort of record in order blocking out and deal with it and it'll be in the land. As a possibility. That's a great point. You made powerful enemies shall battles in the richest man in Nevada and the one who used up not only a lot of money but a lot of political capital. To get that vote passed the 750 million in funding only be frozen out of the deal. He got to wonder he amend that holds grudges.